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' conference, is in a lot, a lot of ways, in the same position as speaker boehner in the house and they're going to have to work with this president whether they like it or not. they tried maybe to defeat him. it didn't work. but i think cardinal dolan at his heart is a pragmatist and wants to get something done and the question is how they're going to work together. i think they'll be forced to work together. >> everyone talks about the message being "okay you guys, go back to washington, make some compromises, get something done." it's not clear exactly what's to be done although everyone agrees immigration is one of the things that's very high. but a lot of people see this fiscal cliff coming, the need for congress and the president to get together to prevent big, big cuts in spending and big, big increases in taxes. so, how can the religious communities help in that? >> well, it's interesting because religious people have been and will continue to be involved sort of in both ends of that debate and for each side it's a moral issue. so, you have catholics, including the catholic bish
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